2002 Pontiac Grand Am SES light P0404; P0300. Replaced fuel filter, fuel pressure regulator,plugs,
plug wires, air filter, and
EGR valve. The EGR valve was replaced after the service engine soon light
came on.

All other repairs were made before the light came on but after symptoms started to appear. The thing
surges,sputters, and just flat runs bad. Has no power to pull itself up hills. If I drive it like there's an egg
under the gas pedal, I can run 80 mph on flat ground easily. Start up a grade of any sort and it falls on
it's face. Starting out from a dead stop is an adventure too. That's where it does most of it's spitting and
sputtering. It has good exhaust flow and no rattling coming from the catalytic converter. What am I
missing here? Why does my car do this. Could a bad gas cap cause this?Could it be a bad PCM?

Answer:
These conditions sure do sound like a plugged catalytic converter. Placing your hand over the tailpipe
when revving engine when it has no power can be misleading unless you have done it many times
before, or can compare to a car with the same engine.

A back pressure test is the proper way to test that. A plugged converter will give lack of power on
acceleration, misfire codes, and egr position codes. Aside from a plugged converter, low fuel pressure
can also cause this, but not the EGR code. A plugged EGR passage to the intake will cause EGR codes,
but not misfire and no power. Restricted injectors will misfires and no power, but not EGR codes.
Suggest having an exhaust back pressure test done.


VISITOR:
I forgot to mention that I was a tech for a bit over 12 years but Driveability wasn't one of my stronger suits.
I have good exhaust flow. I unplugged the
EGR valve and test drove the car a short distance. The
problem is still there but not half as bad as it was. It is actually a lot better. Initial acceleration is very
acceptable now and will pull hills with very little problem. Still thinking converter? What controls the PCM's
instructions to the EGR valve for voltage? Could I have a faulty PCM? What about bad upper intake
manifold and gaskets?

Answer:
Mass airflow sensor if any could cause your no power problem. I have never seen an EGR cause the
problems you are having. Disconnecting the EGR is just turning it off. IT will come on anytime you try to
accelerate, so it sounds like the EGR coming on as it should is just making your problem worse, not
causing the problem. Have fuel pressure checked, exhaust back pressure checked. You can unplug the
MAF and drive it to see if there is a difference. Be sure EGR is plugged back in. EGR is not the cause of
your problem, but when it comes on, it makes it worse. If TPS failed, it should have set a code.

VISITOR:
right on the money. 766.00 later with a new
catalytic Converter in place runs like a top.

Thanks for all your help. I'll jump back on the site and throw some green your way. Appreciate it.


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